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19.11. Does the CSA owe a duty of care to clients?
(1999-07-28)
Whether a duty of care exists (which is a pre-requisite of an action
for negligence) depends on all the circumstances. The courts decide
whether a duty of care exists in given situations on a case by case
basis, but presumably the one most relevant here is whether they owe
a duty of care in relation to the "advice" that they give.
It is very possible that they do, although it is difficult to say for
sure.
The DSS have argued for years that they owe their "customers"
no duty of care in the advice they give.
An alternative approach may be a tort of misfeasance in a public office
which would apply where a public body or official causes someone financial
loss by deliberately abusing their powers, or acts in a conspiracy to
cause unlawful financial loss or harm to another.
19.12. How does the CSA track clients down? (1999-07-28)
There is group at Belfast (and probably other offices) calling themselves
'Specialist Trace'. They put a trace in at Cumbernauld, Scotland, continually
looking at NI contributions etc. When an NI contribution is paid on
someone they are hoping to contact, the victim knows with uncustomary
speed - like within the week!
The agency may be breaking the law by doing this. Anyone know what
the position is?
The CSA tries to track clients via their last known employer. Here
is the text of the letter they send, CSA form 154, 8/96.
To:
Private and Confidential
The Personnel Manager SPECIALIST TRACE
[address
...
Date
...]
(BOLD)We need some information about an employee(end bold)
We understand the person named below is, or has recently been, employed
by you. Please complete the other side of this form. You are required
to give this information under the Child Support (Information, Evidence
and Disclosure) Regulations 1992.
(BOLD)Do not pass this form to your employee. This form must be completed
by your Personnel Department.(end bold)
Employee details
Surname
Foreneme
NI Number
Job title/Clock/Payroll number
Child Support legislation prevents the Department from disclosing to
a third party either an address, or any other information which could
lead to a person being located, except in specific circumstances laid
down in regulations 8 to 10 of the Child Support (Information, Evidence
and Disclosure) Regulations 1992.
Your cooperation in this matter is appreciated. An addressed envelope
which does not require a stamp is enclosed for your reply.
[signed]
Please turn over
Form 154 8/96
(BOLD) Your reply(end bold)
Tell us the latest address you have for this person
Can we contact the person at work by
(Please tick box)
telephone
in writing
personal visit
If this person is no longer employed by you, tell us the date they
left and any details of their new employer
Signature
Date
Position in firm
Business name and address/ company stamp
19.13. How does the CSA track clients' partners?
(1999-07-28)
A source of information inside the CSA says they are NOT allowed to
track clients' partners through electoral records, Tax or National Insurance.
But when unemployed clients get new jobs the agency finds out about
them very quickly.
And newsgroup contributors report that the CSA has information which
apparently came from the Inland Revenue.
19.14. Should an AP make voluntary payments before
the assessment? (1999-07-28)
If the PWC is in receipt of Income Support or Family Credit and the
assessment will be less than the benefit then there's no point in making
voluntary payments. The "maintenance" assessment will not
benefit the children, only the government. Take that as a no.
In other circumstances the answer is maybe but probably not. This is
when the PWC is not in receipt of benefits (a so-called private client)
or where the assessment will exceed the value of the benefits. Once
the maintenance is flowing the PWC's household will be better off.
In these circumstances it is the natural reaction of a responsible
AP to want to make voluntary maintenance payments while waiting for
the CSA to complete the assessment.
Sadly the way the law and CSA work makes this a big gamble. They do
not have to take any account of such payments and often do not. As a
result the AP ends up paying twice for the same period - once voluntarily
and again in arrears.
If an AP cannot bear to see the children suffer from having no voluntary
maintenance then, to maximise the chance of having these payments recognised
by the CSA, they should:
* Have a written agreement, signed by AP and PWC, and making clear that
the payments are for child maintenance
* Have documentary evidence of the payments such as receipts or bank
statements
See also "Can I claim relief on maintenance paid before the assessment
date?"
19.15. Where can I find a lawyer to help? (2001-01-11)
There are few lawyers who have taken an interest in CSA matters so
it is hard to find one.
The newsgroup does not exist to advertise professional services but
this question is asked so often that it is worth noting the people that
have been contacted via the newsgroup and who have contributed to it.
19.15.1. Bob Pape (1999-07-28)
bob.pape@virgin.net
http://listen.to/child-support-solutions.
Very helpful past contributor but now too busy providing help directly
to contribute.
19.15.2. Durham
Legal Services (2001-10-31)
POST.
Durham Legal Services.
PO Box 45.
Houghton-le-Spring.
Tyne & Wear.
DH 4 5 YR.
TELEPHONE.
0191 5211123 Tel.
0191 5238794 Fax.
07713498472 After Hours Mobile.
ELECTRONIC MAIL.
help@csa-advice.fsnet.co.uk
19.16. Can I tape telephone conversations with the
CSA? (2001-10-31)
Technically it's quite easy. The simplest is to put a microphone close
to the ear piece. If you haven't got a microphone try a pair of headphones
instead. An inductive pickup is better and they are quite cheap. A Dictaphone
can do the job of microphone and tape. Some answering machines can do
it.
The legal position is less straightforward. Legally, you need to tell
the other party you are taping the conversation, and put an audible
beep on the line every 20 seconds to remind them they are being taped.
Taped evidence is unlikely to be admissible in court, but can prove
very powerful in 'negotiations' before court. They can also provide
very accurate transcripts.
19.17. Can the CSA intercept my e-mails? (1999-07-28)
Current legislation is not specific on e-mail, but the police are treating
access to email records at ISP's under the PACE rules.
They have asked many of the larger ISP's to agree to a memorandum of
understanding which will mean that your ISP will give out information
from your account at the request of a senior officer; that is, they
will not require a Court Order.
19.18. Can the CSA get information from Banks, Pensions
providers etc? (1999-07-28)
Not legally, unless you or a court authorise them.
In practice some Banks, Building Societies and Pension Companies do
believe that they are legally required to answer the CSA's questions
without authorisation from yourself or a court.
If in doubt, ask them for their understanding of the law and take your
business elsewhere if they don't understand or if they make unauthorised
disclosures. The Data Protection Registrar may also like to know.
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